Safe Casual Daters is a get verified scam that is common in the online dating world. It refers to the murder in the classifieds as reason for you to “get verified.” “…We verify your age and check that you are not a registered sex offender. If you are cleared as safe, a 100% FREE VIP upgrade is provided…”
This one signs you up for cam and porn sites, at a cool $130.00 month if you’re not careful.
This article will cover
- What a date verification scam is
- How they scam you – be sure to watch the short video
- Proof with examples
- Getting Help if you gave them your credit card
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flirtcasualdate.com
The Safe Casual Daters site has the same webpage design and code as other scams, such as the Safe and Single family of Get Verified scam websites. flirtcasualdate.com is the unfortunately all too typical get verified scam. The process of sign-up asks for a user name and an email, then on the next page you are to enter your credit card.
Is this not the website they sent you to? Well it was probably very close. Scammers change websites all the time, but its all the same scam, so read on…
The set up
The scam starts when you get an email from “Cathy”, she is interested in meeting you. I will spare the agony of the sloppy email for you, but suffice it to say it is littered with copy-paste remnants and difficult to read. Eventually, she gets around to telling you she wants you to get verified, and sends you a link to the Safe Casual Daters web site.
flirtcasualdate.com welcomes you to Bagledesh.
Sort of… Safe Casual Daters is owned by Hasna Khatun, who reports his location in Dhaka, Bangledesh. However, flirtcasualdate.com is not where you are typing your information – you are really typing you information in another website without your knowledge.
How Safe Casual Daters Scams you
Two methods:
One: A web programming command called iFrame. This allows them to direct your credit card entry without you knowing, and hides the charges.
Two: Too big for the smart phone. Web pages designed not to fit on your smart phone, so you have to swipe left to see the charges. Most people will not do that.
This short video shows how the scams work
Safe Casual Daters Fine Print: $130/month
Note that you can’t see the charges, the iframe command is hiding it. What you see is this:
This is what you don’t see because the iFrame command is preventing you from seeing it.
Let me summarize that for you
- Free 2 day trial promo to Premier Passport; after that it bills at $39.95/month
- EroticDvdsOnline.com – 7 Days Free Trial, after that it bills at $39.94/month
- XXXHDVault.com – 10 Days Free Trial, after that it bills at fixed $49.95/month
That’s nearly $130.00 a month!
And remember, you don’t know these terms are there. Your first knowledge of the charge is likely to be when you get the credit card bill. By that time you have passed the “trial period”. The site asks you to check your email after you verify. You might get that email, or it might end up in the spam folder.
If you notice the text “Terms and Conditions”. That in-fact is a hyperlink to a set of Terms and Conditions. In this case, those T&C’s are referring to a company Halsey Investments ltd. in the UK. There you can read about the $39.95 / month billing. The other charges are not listed.
Halsey Investments has 3 directors
- David Hammond – 64 Rectory Lane, Byfleet, West Byfleet, Surrey, England, KT14 7LU
- Angela Thompson
- EMB MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS LTD
David Hammond was the only person with an address that was not the company address. Halsey Investments address is UNIT 1 CONSETT BUSINESS PARK, VILLA REAL, CONSETT, COUNTY DURHAM, DH8 6BP. According to Companies House (the UK registry of companies), there are 22 companies in a tiny little office park building. Hmmm.
flirtcasualdate.com – But wait, there’s more!
There is another site underneath safe casual daters. If you click the “declined or received an error” button, you are directed to elitecougardating.com. Again there are charges. The disclosure is visible this time (my emphasis):
You have chosen access for 1 day using our promotional trial offer charged at one dollar and eighty seven cents. If you choose to remain a member you will be billed thirty four dollars and ninety five cents monthly until cancelled. This charge will appear on your cardholder statement as ‘q-msprk.com’
Remember though, you started with the website that stated everything was free. Another thing that I observed is that the name that is to appear on your cardholder statement is a rotation. Here is a small sample:
- MATE-US.COM 8772486711
- q-msprk.com
- SWTSPPRT.COM 8772743841
Faking location
The site shows a location of your “date”. The way they do it is by using a java script code from Geoplugin.net. Geoplugin is code that determines your general location by looking at your IP address. The scam website takes that information and makes it appear as if your “date” is in the same general area as you. If you go to the site from California, you will see your date near you as well.
Follow the Money – Safe Casual Daters
Now we see how they are making their money. A Bangledeshi entrepreneur sets up a web site, then underneath you get signed up for a subscription to a pornographic site. The cost is hidden, and when you find the bill on your credit card its too late.
If this all seems convoluted and complex, it is no doubt on purpose. It obfuscates even more complexity – the rotating sites are front ends for a while label porn site/company. The front end site does the marketing, while the White Label company billing, and collects the money. If you want to understand how these relationship are connected, and see how the money flows, read my blog post Get Verified: Tinder, Badoo, and Craigslist – Matrix of a Scam.
No Happy Ending here
Your date “Cathy” is just a few lines of code in the web page created by some guy in Bangladesh.
I think a reasonable finding of fact would conclude that what is happening is fraud.
As far as elitecougardating.com goes, they do disclose the charges so they are probably within the letter of the law. Still, the overall intent to deceive is clear. It started out as a date, that turned in to a “free” verification service, that turned in to a credit card charge.
Of course you should never enter your credit card in one of these sites. Hopefully, what you can take away is to recognize the pattern early. No legitimate person is going to ask you to sign up to a website to verify yourself. As soon as that happens just move on.
Help! I gave them my Credit Card!
OK, you will need to act fast. This page will tell you what you need to do:Help - I Gave Them My Credit Card
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Post Script
Recognizing an Online Dating Scammer
Here are some of the quick things to watch for on Craigslist, or any internet forum for that matter.
- Poor use of the English language (or what ever language is native to your location)
- The poster places quick contact information in the ad, such as phone number, email address, Kik ID, etc.
- Fake pictures – see my page on Tineye Search
- Lots of blank spaces between the end of the text and the bottom of the post (the bot has a bug that they don’t seem to care about)
- 2 pictures that are the same
- Cell phone numbers that are not from Retail Providers – See my Cell Phone Farmer post.
- Patterns – really, they use the same text over and over again.
- Over the top language – There are some real women on sites, the approach that a woman uses (even in casual hookups) is not likely to be like something from a porno flick.
For additional information, you can visit the FBI, which has additional behaviors of the typical scammer.
flirtcasualdate.com – Registry
Registrant Name: Hasna Khatun Registrant Street: Vill. gonogram, P.O. & P.S. Ghatail Registrant City: Tangail Registrant State/Province: Dhaka Registrant Postal Code: 1983 Registrant Country: BD Registrant Phone: +880.1925300148 Registrant Email: hasnakhatun@outlook.com
elitecougardating.com – Registry
Registrant Name: CRAZY PROTOCOL Registrant Organization: CRAZY PROTOCOL Registrant Street: 7040 AVENIDA ENCINAS Registrant Street: STE 104-300 Registrant City: CARLSBAD Registrant State/Province: CA Registrant Postal Code: 92011 Registrant Country: US Registrant Phone: +1.8002187142 Registrant Email: DOMAINOWNER@CRAZYPROTOCOL.COM
Dateverifytracking.com
Dateverifytracking.com is registered anonymously in Panama. It has a chain of websites that it goes thru before you end up on the porn site. In this case, it 2gotraffic.com redirects to securejoinsite.com before it lands on the porn site.
7 Comments
Vailepa chair
May 3, 2020 - 7:55 pmWhat happened if its ur Visa insted of ur credit card thx
Ronin Eternales
May 3, 2020 - 8:16 pmplease see this video https://youtu.be/pkelxLjUKcg
Eric Smith
January 18, 2020 - 7:29 pmWhy won’t it verify me, always say inbedid card decined?
Ronin Eternales
January 26, 2020 - 5:14 pmThats because its a scam, pls go back and actually read the article
Ed
July 22, 2019 - 3:14 amFortunately, they wouldn’t accept my Capital One card & my WF card flagged them for fraudulent practices.
Glenn Aquilina
June 7, 2019 - 1:09 pmIs there a way so for a verification ID with Money hidden?
Ronin Eternales
June 8, 2019 - 9:07 pmall scams